Subject	The difference is, Jon Abler is *NOT* an engineer.
Posted by	ni[X]it on July 17, 2007 at 6:14 PM
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In Reply To	no kidding >> posted by ztunerz on July 17, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Message	He is one of the few (but majority) on this website known as "trial by error" designers. There is no ENGINEERING in what he does. He doesn't use math or science to solve complex problems. He uses, dirt, clay, and a little imagination (and hooch?) to come up with his mods. Thats it. No proofs, no sound theories, no dyno results, nothing. Those that play engineers in the real world like to poke holes in his unfounded theories and ideas. Then the guy blows up into a whirlwind of poor taste and bad (BAD) marketing management. But whatever. I've put all my *engineered* products on the shelf indefenintly again... Why not step up Harry? Petz #3
Follow Ups	Need 2.5 inch intercooler piping . Did someone - AZHeat 14:16:26 07/17/07 Re: Need 2.5 inch intercooler piping . Did someone - Kenny 14:21:00 07/17/07 Because he has that oil pan to get to market - Broke_as_**** 14:35:17 07/17/07 I was told Mike has the cast parts done for the most part. - Woody75 (Denver) 14:36:43 07/17/07 Is he replacing the rubber accordian part pipe too? (n/m) - AZHeat 14:46:40 07/17/07 That is what the mandrel pipe is replacing. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 14:48:52 07/17/07 Thanks. (n/m) - AZHeat 14:49:53 07/17/07 excellent, i think i'll wait on those instead of Ash's - Alan(NJ) 14:52:58 07/17/07 MS isn't doing intercoolering piping. - AZHeat 15:01:59 07/17/07 I know the AAE guy is making some crazy setup for gt28rs - spyhunterTT(nj) 15:08:31 07/17/07 he should visit us on this forum - Alan(NJ) 15:10:15 07/17/07 He did but people here chased him away. (n/m) - Inzane 15:16:48 07/17/07 no kidding >> - ztunerz 15:21:44 07/17/07 why would the "engineer types" jump on you? (n/m) - aliaZ 15:40:08 07/17/07 some guys jump down peoples back even if they are trying to - Alan(NJ) 15:43:14 07/17/07 2nd, just look at the auto FAQ (n/m) - HicasZ 15:48:14 07/17/07 this isn't about Ash - aliaZ 16:02:11 07/17/07 You joined ttnet in 2004. - ArubaDave 16:16:23 07/17/07 ive seen old links (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 16:18:59 07/17/07 ok. (n/m) - ArubaDave 16:20:07 07/17/07 Apparently not. (n/m) - Kenny 16:26:32 07/17/07 maybe you know why ? LOL (n/m) - ztunerz 00:12:03 07/18/07 yes, I do. Do you? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:21:11 07/18/07 The difference is, Jon Abler is *NOT* an engineer. - ni[X]it 18:14:14 07/17/07 Mike Smith, Greg D. don't use "trail by error" ? - AZHeat 18:30:05 07/17/07 What are you going to do about it? - ni[X]it 18:50:13 07/17/07 I've never heard Mike or Greg refer to themselves - aliaZ 20:00:46 07/17/07 Did John Abler refer to himself as engineers? (n/m) - AZHeat 20:12:15 07/17/07 what do you think "AAE" stands for? - aliaZ 20:15:21 07/17/07 So what? It's a name . Garbage men refer to themselves - AZHeat 20:33:25 07/17/07 Garbage men calling themselves "sanitation engineers" is - Guapo 20:49:36 07/17/07 It's a fricken name !!! (n/m) - AZHeat 20:56:36 07/17/07 ... of a company that he uses to sell products to people. - Guapo 20:59:50 07/17/07 lmao (n/m) - aliaZ 21:08:51 07/17/07 Is his product unsafe or his he ripping off his customers? - AZHeat 21:11:36 07/17/07 A product doesn't have to be unsafe for it's development - Guapo 21:15:27 07/17/07 no, it's misrepresentation - aliaZ 21:06:27 07/17/07 Hmm...that reminds me. Did anyone buy collegeboi's oil - Dave N 21:15:04 07/17/07 Are we talking about a car manifold or a aircraft - AZHeat 21:16:05 07/17/07 Not really. Consider the scenario if an ill-designed oil pan - Dave N 21:17:41 07/17/07 I guess every upgrade part on your car was designed - AZHeat 21:33:23 07/17/07 Let me check...... - Dave N 21:39:13 07/17/07 So your Greg Dupree and SGP parts are - AZHeat 22:06:21 07/17/07 Yep. - Dave N 22:16:11 07/17/07 You full of it. I cornered you and you know full well - AZHeat 22:19:47 07/17/07 ROFL! Who's cornered whom? - Dave N 22:40:00 07/17/07 Precisely true on your 2nd point. He and I even talked - Scotts94z32 00:37:53 07/18/07 There is a difference between being designed from - AZHeat 01:07:08 07/18/07 You've completely missed the point for the sake of debating. - Dave N 06:56:45 07/18/07 You are the one shifting reasoning. Greg D designs - AZHeat 11:09:10 07/18/07 I see you've made the same mistake twice now - aliaZ 12:09:50 07/18/07 Wow... - Dave N 14:33:05 07/18/07 Come on, that's a big "if" - SactoTodd 21:33:29 07/17/07 LOL (n/m) - Dave N 21:45:50 07/17/07 So you shift from exhaust manifold to oil pan? - AZHeat 11:17:27 07/18/07 I chose the oil pan as a way to get your attention but any - Dave N 14:35:25 07/18/07 You must be getting your screws from wrong place then. (n/m) - AZHeat 15:38:08 07/18/07 That's the funniest thing I've seen you say in this string:) (n/m) - Dave N 16:41:31 07/18/07 I'm with you Don, 100%. (n/m) - Inzane 22:57:12 07/17/07 2nd that, "engineering" implies more than just a company - WildBill 02:02:34 07/18/07 3rd, "Engineer" is a professional designation not a buzzword (n/m) - Kenny 08:29:08 07/18/07 ROFL , You throw out big words. - AZHeat 11:14:04 07/18/07 So AAE, as a business, manages enterprises? - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 11:31:07 07/18/07 You are correct. "Engineer" in the name would - AZHeat 11:41:40 07/18/07 I see what you are trying to say... - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 12:29:52 07/18/07 Re: I see what you are trying to say... - AZHeat 12:56:28 07/18/07 Again, it's a professional designation. - Kenny 14:14:46 07/18/07 Does Abler have that designation with his name? - AZHeat 15:31:55 07/18/07 Yes, he does. "AAE" (n/m) - Kenny 15:36:40 07/18/07 AAE is not a Suffix or prefix to his name DUMBASS. - AZHeat 15:40:53 07/18/07 His name = his business name, the name of the business he - Kenny 15:45:37 07/18/07 A person's name = Business name Okay ROFL (n/m) - AZHeat 15:52:13 07/18/07 "His" denotes ownership =). (n/m) - Kenny 16:02:47 07/18/07 Those are big words? - Kenny 14:19:28 07/18/07 What parts have failed from "AAE"? Enlightened us. - AZHeat 11:33:28 07/18/07 I was speaking in a general sense (n/m) - aliaZ 12:01:51 07/18/07 We were talking in context of AAE. That sounded - AZHeat 12:09:45 07/18/07 I didn't intend it as such - aliaZ 12:15:34 07/18/07 I agree 100% on the Noltecs. - AZHeat 12:34:01 07/18/07 Definition of "Engineer" - AZHeat 11:21:01 07/18/07 You're arguing semantics, but the issue is clear. - Kenny 14:13:41 07/18/07 LOL (n/m) - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 14:40:46 07/18/07 No you are arguing semantics. It is just a business - AZHeat 15:29:21 07/18/07 "Abler Automotive Engineering" (n/m) - Kenny 15:38:41 07/18/07 Re: "Abler Automotive Engineering" - AZHeat 15:43:12 07/18/07 Re: Re: "Abler Automotive Engineering" - Kenny 15:48:54 07/18/07 So what do you want me to again ? (n/m) - ztunerz 23:19:35 07/17/07 For Nixit - ztunerz 00:09:56 07/18/07 What you seem to be missing is this... - Kenny 00:40:42 07/18/07 Was the intercooler comparison with flow chart and - AZHeat 11:26:42 07/18/07 Read my post again. - Kenny 14:06:50 07/18/07 So? (n/m) - AZHeat 15:33:47 07/18/07 What are you going to do about it? (n/m) - Kenny 15:37:07 07/18/07 When you read a magazine where they do product - AZHeat 15:48:59 07/18/07 Keep saying it, maybe it will come true! (n/m) - Kenny 15:50:36 07/18/07 You can't refute it. Your statements hold no - AZHeat 15:54:42 07/18/07 Sure, it's standard practice. - Kenny 16:06:34 07/18/07 It's also standard practice in proving a point - AZHeat 16:15:52 07/18/07 You didn't give any examples. - Kenny 17:05:37 07/18/07 Learn to search. - AZHeat 18:43:26 07/18/07 Maybe you didn't read my post carefully. - Kenny 09:03:57 07/19/07 What's a "pseudo Engineer"? You're either an Engineer or - Inzane 12:00:05 07/18/07 Yea, have you heard of "Quacks" ? (n/m) - AZHeat 12:08:00 07/18/07 link please (n/m) - EricTTZ 16:03:24 07/17/07 how is your AC coming along? (n/m) - aliaZ 16:35:28 07/17/07 Good. I appreciate the help. (n/m) - EricTTZ 00:38:47 07/18/07 Re: link please - spyhunterTT(nj) 21:44:24 07/17/07
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